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Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by Bob Applegate at May 02. 2007
I'm assuming that the E8 and FoUSB have the same 10 pin connector, right? I have some development machines with FoUSBs while newer ones have E8s. Can I use either type with the same SDK board?

Bob

Of course not... the E8 has a different connector!

Posted by Bob Applegate at May 02. 2007
Once I unwrapped the new E8 I see it's got a 14 pin connector, so it won't work with the old boards that used the FoUSB. Too bad... it would be nice to have the same set of tools for multiple processors/boards.

Bob

RE: Of course not... the E8 has a different connector!

Posted by George Patsilaras at May 02. 2007
NO, they do not have the same connector. The FoUSB uses a 10 pin connector and the E8 uses a 14 pin. There is a converter out there that can be used to plug in an E8 into an FoUSB header. (You really would not want to plug in an FoUSB into an E8 header.

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by Kevin at August 29. 2007

What is wrong with plugging a FoUSB into an E8 header?

It probably depends on which part you are using, but I have been using a FoUSB connected to the 14 pin header of a M16C/28 without any problems.  I did have to make my own adapter cable though.

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by FrankL at August 30. 2007

There are no problems to connect E8 to an FoUSB-board or to connect FoUSB to an E8-board as long as the software supports the processor. Both use exactly the same signals because these are defined by the boot loader for flash programming of the device. Both FoUSB and E8 use the pre-programmed boot loader for software download and a clock synchronous serial interface.

I'm using both and have no problems (but some special cables to do so). There are also some few boards which have both a 10-pin connector for FoUSB and a 14-pin connector for E8.

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by David Hedley at October 28. 2008

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by MikeG at October 29. 2008

I am trying to utilize the E8 in a set up that previously used the old FoUSB programmer.  I created a cable adaptor, but when I launch KD30, I get an error that it cannot connect with the target.

I looked into using the installation CD, but I am worried that it wants to overwrite my existing software (HEW, KD, etc.)

What do I need to do?

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by Calvin Grier at October 29. 2008
KD30 doesn't support E8. You should download HEW and use it, since it will create a M16C Debugging project for you - you just need to specify where the .x30 file is located.

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by MikeG at October 30. 2008

Hi Calvin,

We met at DevCon, and I wanted to come back and talk to you about this, but everything was torn down (too early in my opinion).

Anyway, we already use HEW and are at 4.04 or so; the E8's installation disk wants to install 4.0 and we don't want to go backwards.

We have been using KD30 for >4 years and are quite comfortable with it.  Are you saying in order to use the E8, we need to abandon KD30 and use the HEW's internal debugger?  Would we lose any capabilities? Is there a transition process/paper giving us hints on what's necessary?

Thanks!

-Mike

 

Previously Calvin Grier wrote:

KD30 doesn't support E8. You should download HEW and use it, since it will create a M16C Debugging project for you - you just need to specify where the .x30 file is located.

 

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by ckgrier2 at October 30. 2008

All HEW installers check to see if there's a newer version already installed. Don't worry about going backward. You might even get an option to uncheck the HEW portion before the actual process starts.

FoUSB and E8 have very similar capabilities. I'd suggest moving to the E8 when you need to (or want to), otherwise stick to the FoUSB - since you've probably already understood the underpinnings.

I hope you liked the DevCon! It was amazing to see it all come together so well.

Re: Can both an E8 and FoUSB plug into the same board?

Posted by MikeG at November 03. 2008

I'm trying to use the E8 from within HEW, and am running into some difficulties. I am getting an error when trying to "connect" to it - it's asking for an ID code. I have no idea what that means.

 

edit: Actually, I have been able to use the menu items under "Device" within HEW. I seemed to successfully download new firmware to my target. I am trying, now, to use the Debug menu and that's where HEW shows me that Dialog box asking for an ID code.

 

 

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